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Greg England

That's a good place to be. If for no other reason, you can be more focused when you work for an audience of One. When I moved to Long Beach, I did so with the intent of not caring ... which is stupid because of course we care what other think. But I've managed, for the most part, to be more concerned for the higher priority of what God thinks.
Another fine post, Jim ... looking forward to reading the follow-up of "what" and "why."

Matt Tapie

What great thoughts. I have always appreciated your openness and humble heart. Thanks for letting the love of Christ shine through your life today. Your post makes me think of a quote from Augustine that talks about the difference between the world and the church in regard to the sinful problem of self-glorificaton.

"Two Cities have been formed by two loves: the earthly by the love of self, even to the contempt of God; the heavenly by the love of God, even to the contempt of self. The former, in a word, glories in itself, the latter in the Lord. For the one seeks glory from men; but the greatest glory of the other is God, the witness of conscience. The one lifts up its head in its own glory; the other says to its God,'Thou art my glory, and the lifter up of mine head.'"
-Augustine, The City of God, Book 14.28

Sharon Lovelace

I guess this can go both ways. Sometimes I dont care enough about what people think .

Jim Martin

You both speak to the other end of that problem which is to decide that we absolutely don't care about what other people think.

As you both noted, that is a real issue. It is no more Christ-like to completely ignore the feelings and thoughts of others than to be shackled by them.

There is still this interesting problem of the self that keeps placing itself at the forfront of our lives.

Jim Martin

Thanks for a great quote! I hope you are doing well. I have great memories of your time in Waco.

Connie Lard

Jim, It is my observation that caring too much what people think is pretty typical of people when they are in their teens and twenties. Hopefully, we mature out of this as we grow. Sounds like you are following that typical growth curve. Isn't it great to be fifty-something instead of twenty-something!!! :)

Ted Gossard

I can id with you in my life, Jim. And I love your thought, that people craving happiness and the minister craving people's approval, is indeed a deadly combination. Certainly far from Jesus and the apostolic writings.


I think it's interesting that caring less freed you to care more. When we are enslaved to something, we do the very LEAST we have to. Yet, freedom can be extravagant!
Thoughtful post. Thanks.

Jim Martin

I like the way you said, "Caring less freed you to care more." That is so true and so freeing.

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